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Thursday, June 02, 2005

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Broken Messenger

Wonderful post Tod, thank you.

Brad

perfilip

Hello Tod!

It's so interesting to read your thoughts on the church! You have a fascinating blog, and dare to touch upon many exciting issues. You ask important questions!

I have one question for you, though. You ask: "Whose church is it?" I'm just a student from Norway, while you've probably known and studied the Word of God for many years. But my impression from the Bible is that the Church is for God alone, and is not ours. We're His family, His house and Christ's bride. And he is jealos and zealos for his people. (He wants it for his own, and even tell us in detail how he wants it.)

I actually claim that one of our greatest problem (in the western church) is that we concider the church as only our own. We often forget to ask God how HE wants His house, and ask Christ how He wants His bride. We're only here to bring glory to him, and as we do, he fills all our needs, and we start living in the wonderful way you describe.

But if we start to live church as if it where for our own sake, we might continue on the path where our meanings and feelings become authorities in how the church should be. As we do, we get confused as we disagree on right and wrong for the church. The Bible should be our highest autority, and God should get His church exactly as He wishes. That's my prayer! Let's be passionate for the church.

Well, I just tried to share some thought on your question: Whose church is it?

You, very rightly, touch upon these things yourself also. And I loved what you said about the church not being "a place" where we get our personal needs "fed". The greatest way to live is to forget about ourselves, and focus on Him. Then he'll make us care for eachother.

Please share you thoughts on this. I'm greatful for good guidance :-)

Love
Per Filip Osland, Norway

perfilip

I apologize for all the spelling errors (I found some now as reading though my comment). But I'm not a native speaker :-) Thanx again for you're great blog!

Tod

Per Filip,

Thanks for "chiming in". In my earliest post in this series, I said that the church belongs to God, but since we all, together as Christians, are Christ's body, then it is also, ours, all together, to represent Christ on earth.

My point is that the church does not belong to any one of us--not even pastors--but to all of us who make up a congregation. Since the church is Christ's, the body of Christ must together live for Christ alone!

Thanks again, please keep reading. I read your blog a bit and share your love for Christ and coffee.

I am a "triple, non-fat, no foam latte" man myself.

All best,

Tod

Don Ryan

Tod-

What a wonderful post. Too often we forget that the church is not a building but is rather the body of Christ. We are members in particular who are each called to ministry, whether behind the pulpit or ministering to each other. The Kingdom of God is big enough to accommodate all who will enter in (and I'm so glad!). Great writing. Read it every day.

Rev John Telfer Brown

Great series Tod! I am so glad that he chose the disciples! :)

Derek Simmons

Tod:
In your note to us laymen you say that "studies have revealed that while Christian belief alone doesn’t lead to demonstrably different lifestyle choices than non-Christians, regular churchgoers do show a marked increase in charitable giving, environmental causes, civic duties, volunteerism and other socially desirable activities and a significantly lower levels of drug and alcohol abuse, promiscuity, and other social ills."
Is it a stretch to conclude from these "studies" that folks who talk to the sociologists who make these "studies" break down into two groups: those who say they believe and those who say they believe--and do?

Don't these "studies" make it clear that the former group is comprised of those who seek to mirror culture and the latter those who seek to mirror Christ, acting out their beliefs by, among other things attending church and living their lives obedient to Him in whom they believe?

The pastor has a role in building up the brothers and sisters who people this latter category. Does the pastor also have a role in filling the former group as well?

Your Brother in Christ,
Derek

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